The Lie Of ‘No Self’

I am going to start a series on what you would call ‘debunking enlightenment’ posts. As it happens I travelled the same path as Jed McKenna, and I got to know him well, including his physical form. But let me tell you something… there is NOTHING in the end of it all.

But ‘nothing’ would not sell well, would it? Hence, the mysterious language, mistranslated terminology from Eastern traditions, ‘gurus’ peddling the goods behind the facade of ‘enlightenment’ and thousands of other gimmicks leading one down the rabbit hole. ALL is a Lie, Jed got that one right. He spoke about that.. and then has BECOME that, turning into an enlightenment market trader. Considering we inhabit the same part of the world and things that take place here.. it would make a book or two.

‘Truth exists’ said Jed. This looks convincing, does it not? Comforting and cosy, something to hold on to in this vast ocean of ‘What the f*ck is going on, I need a rudder!!’. But. Is the tree true? Is Jed McKenna true? Is the sun true? Where is true? It does not exist. ‘True’ arises in the conceptual framework of the Mind. ‘MY Self’ as is known to most humans – has no existential Reality, a collection of stored neural pathways and perceptual schematics.

But here is the paradox, of course. There is no point in denying that we, each one of us, still feel unique, continuous of our being. We feel the centre whioch makes us – us. Stardustpilgrim (someone from said: “It seems that for most people here there isn’t an individuated true self or essence, there is merely Self, or the body as response to the cosmos, the mind-body being an expression of the whole cosmos. But for me, yes, there is an individuated essence, true self.”

My entire being, too, objects to the belief in the absence of individualted Self. This belief throws people off exactly because it is so contradictory to their being, to how they experience and interact with the world. This was one of my points of divergence with Jed, who kept insisting (until very recenty, crazy son of a b*tch) – ‘no self’. But Jed has books to sell and students to fool. I don’t. This is indeed THE IRONY… spiritual ‘teachings’ tell us there is no true self at all, yet many a teacher is well set up and thriving. Have you ever questioned why they shamelessly teach humans b*ullsh*t? And have you ever wondered just WHY the three major religions/spiritual thoughts of the world are different in the way they address certain things? I have an answer to that, but it is outside of this particular instance of vomit.

Our true Selves have been suppressed, continuously lasered out of us, we were presented with millions of reflections of others, mirrored them, integrated what is not us – into our psyche. It started at birth, with the first breath when the good doctor placed you on your mum’s chest and said ‘Hey, he is a whopper’.. Take all that indoctrination out, take ALL OF IT out.. what is left? Nothing? Really? Have another look. Maugli might have been hopping the trees in the jungle with other monekys, but he was not nothing. A dog is not nothing, it has its true Self, albeit without being aware of it. A child is NEVER born as a blank slate, and those who had a few – will tell you how dfferent they were even as babies.

What is left? My true nature, as at moment of conception. Unspoilt. Natural State. What is it? Sweet? Bitter? Mighty? Canning? Callous? Concerned? Can I murder another human in cold blood? Do I like running marathons because my body needs a challenge?. Do I thrive on taking things apart to see how they work? Do I feel compelled to create a work of art? Can I overcome a fear of a bungee jump? Do I naturally keep my cool in the face of adversity or turn into a whimpering wreck?

True Self is. True Self exists. If you, as you are now here, were born EXACTLY as you are – in ancient Egypt… imagine that for a minute. Now, you would worship Osiris and would charcoal your eyes and would work the field or whatever… But your ESSENCE, as is now here in the modern world – would still be the same John or Mary. You would exhibit the same preferences for certain types of food, (but it wouldn’t be pizza!), drink, sleeping and sex positions. You would have the same inclinations for activities (say, sedenary versus active), you would be prone to the same illnesses, would display the same phsychological traits, the same semen count and the colour of your eyes. It is unchangeable.

All that and its being consitutes your true Self. But we are talking here in this forum essentially about human ‘psyche’, not the colour of your eyes, right? The psyche has the same properties in each human, but it manifests according to both true Self and the experienced personal reality, i. – your unique life stories.

So what the heck are you, your true Self, and why do people get so confused when encounting the question for the first time? Because it is asked outside of any context. If I asked you ‘What is this apple?’…. what would you answer? There are hundreds of different angles (contexts), with which to answer this question, and each one would be correct. They will be the total sum of all that the apple is: a fruit, tasty, my favourite thing, crunchy, round, grows in Winchester, fresh smell, rots fast, full of iron etc. etc. etc….

You are the sum total of all the above, expressed in human terms. Yes, the property of crunchy-ness is universal. We are all the same undifferentiated Consciousness floating in the vast field of cosmic nothing. But YOU may be crunchier than me. Or sweeter. Or smaller. Or juicier. Or harder. And so on. So what ARE you, your true Self? An easy question to answer, the meaning of which is totally concealed by how it is framed. You KNOW your crunchy-ness or smell or rot. That is all you are, specifically and at birth.

“16. What is the nature of the Self?
What exists in truth is the Self alone. The world, the individual soul, and God are appearances in it. like silver in mother-of-pearl, these three appear at the same time, and disappear at the same time.” – Ramana Maharshi “Who Am I? – Nan Yar?

The world of nondualism absconds from Reality via the Oblivion Pill of denial of what IS. It insists on expressing ONLY one part of the elephant: the world of no form. But Reality is about multitudes and existence of every opposing, contradicting instance, where both form and no form co-exist without contradiction. One has to go beyond ‘spiritual’ teachings to Reality of what is.

What Is – is right in front of one’s nose and encompasses everything. That is probably the only Truth, if you still need a name, but why would you when the rain is falling, the sun is shining, your stomach is asking for food and there is a good book to read or a new message on the forum to reply to… hehe.. it is incomprehensible and totally transparent at the same time.

Someone I used to know in Sri Lanka (who was not TR, but was a Human Adult, which he wouldn’t even know to class himself as) said to me ‘I know the beauty of me’. Damn right! That’s all one needs to know – the beauty and the ugliness of your specific Self. I know mine too. I know what/who I am <========= Ego in perpetual dance with true (higher) Self which simply refuses to play the human Game of extracting resources from all and sundry.

To figure out what you really are, you can contemplate this:

You are…. what is.. when no one is looking at you.

And Jed McKenna will get his own special page one day. A lot of material on how.. later on that one.

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8 thoughts on “The Lie Of ‘No Self’

  1. You’ve got my support and curiosity.For some time I obssesed with the concept of enlightenment (starting with Jed and continuing with UG and other guys) and I can confidently say that this ideea is brainwashing in so many ways for people who desperately try to cling on something.

    1. Thank you for your comment.

      It is certainly an illusory dream, but one has to see it for themselves from within, aka ‘get enlightened’.

  2. I got an instinctive, ‘but hang on just a second?’, when at the beginning of Jed Mc’s TOE, he ‘undeniably proves’ just how truth has to be???

    I get the feeling that the word ‘consciousness’ (a word that I don’t much care for haha) in your article could be swapped out for ‘self’. But, unless something in this space changes, there may not be a way to string words together to get any closer to da trut of It 😉

    Good read, cheers 🙂

  3. You are welcome, Damien.

    I don’t understand what you meant by ‘unless something in this space changes’.

    One cannot get closer to own life than one already is. How can one ‘get closer’ to own fingers, stomach, skin, headaches, feelings, smiles, sickness… the air, the sunlight, sounds and smells?

    ‘Enlightement’ is this kind of absolute Knowing that there is nothing to know. Then… what the hell are all the books about? Complete nothing. Empty air. These are ways of turning empty air into something more tangible.

  4. My name happens to be Irene. What I know of myself I call ‘Ireneness’. It’s unique. So it is with all forms…all are temporary….yet all with their own essence, their smell, feel, appearance, sound, preferences etc., and recognisable by such features. I like to just stay there. I enjoy, by inclination, these types of writings and explorations but, when my language becomes misinterpreted or I fail to understand the labels others are using, and the pointers just draw attention to themselves, I end up back here, in my Ireneness. I have never, ever experienced myself as undifferentiated.

  5. Dear Irene, your intuition does not let you down.

    Undifferentiated consciousness is a mind construct, a label humans give to a phenomenon. It is the same as electric current is a mind construct. On its own ‘current’ is a label and has no real existence. But situationally it has measurable properties, which depend on the materials it runs in. In the same way.. each one of us is that material, and the current (consciousness) is individuated and differentiated.

    Consciousness properties are the same for all, but its manifestation in each individual body is different. This is the nature of world’s relative property. All is relative to everything else, interconnected, defined by another form.

  6. Yea…. but we die and then its nothing forever, so no self is true self. Duhhhhhh, did u forget about infinity.

    1. OK. Stop eating, sleeping, sexing, breathing. Can’t? I wonder why.

      Jimmy, Eternity can wait. If one lives their life from the Eternity perspective,,, one will have no life.

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