Jed McKenna Evolution

Every time I read a passage from one of Jed McKenna books I feel two things.

I feel a shrill sense of love for the measure of simplicity afforded to his otherwise complex mind. His very precise expressions are borne out of clarity and lucidity, the very qualities I personally appreciate in human minds at large. It is quite a rare thing to behold.

I also feel a sense of annoyance that the mind of such calibre got nevertheless infected by the prevailing ‘spiritual’ paradigm of mainly North American origins. I mean.. the middle aged talking heads of the West Pacific coast expound exactly the same nonsense: Truth realisation means no Self, no universe in existence, I am Consciousness, nothing is real etc. etc.

The most annoying is “The Theory of Everything“, in which the blabbering around conceptual statements only twists the mind into further concepts and away from any meaningful understandings. Jed stated in his first book that reality and existence are not a mystery. Correct. We make it so because so very few have the capacity to ask meaningful questions and to use their heads to answer those questions. Just like the Buddha did under his tree, after having utterly failed at finding answers in external frameworks. Not that he didn’t lie after, mind you.

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“If we say that truth does not exist, then we are saying it is true that truth does not exist; a self-nullifying statement like saying there are no absolutes. Would you agree?”

The already lost participant tentatively replies ‘I suppose so’. Like him, the readers attempt to grasp the kernel of each expression in the book, but instead sink deeper into the maze of cognitive appraisal. Just try to wrap your mind around the phrase above and see how quickly you will get trapped.

But we are talking about Reality, right? In Reality, one receives the impressions of concepts on another, above (or below if you wish) level FIRST. You see… all smashing, all destroying hammer of The Insight has no consideration for naming conventions, definitions, dictionaries and the likes. It comes. It cuts across any and all of them and lands one in Clarity, but no explanation of how one arrived there.

Attempts to explain come later. This is exactly what Jed’s books do. They demonstrate the evolution of one man’s mind, from the first question to the Aha! moment to settling into a newly found vision. From “The Damnedest Thing” to “The Dreamscape”, the progress in his personal perceptions and understandings is remarkably visual.

“Enlightenment: The Damnedest Thing” was a reflection of that first blindfold drop, a sense of elation, pride, awe, of own sense of achievement, because yes, it cost him some and was not easy. “I can fucking SEE!!! Look! Look! Fuck that, I can see!!” Darn. I remember the feeling.

The rest of the first Trilogy books chart this brave new world. One has to get used to light and clarity, but of course the world is not really ‘new’, does not rush towards you to embrace and to behold, and if you had an ugly mug before – you will have an ugly mug after, literally and metaphorically speaking. One still has to survive and to make amends. As I said earlier, even the most powerful people (and minds) can be gunned down in seconds. That’s Reality for ya.

“There can plainly be no such thing as untruth. I don’t pretend to understand it, and I cannot make it fit reality as I see it, but the logic is perfectly sound”, states Jed in “The Theory of Everything”.

He is both correct and a bluff at the same time. Truth equals Reality. Reality equals Truth. There can be no untruth, because Reality IS and cannot NOT exist. If you doubt that – you firmly planted self in the conceptual world. Jump in the cold shower or observe your friend dying from cancer, then come back here and state none of it was real. Fuck you, you brainwashed impotent little mind. You lied. To self first and foremost.

When Jed stated he does not understand it, he was bluffing. Further in the book he claims “As it happens, one of the things you get when you make this particular journey is perfect knowledge; complete and absolute understanding of everything.” This is also correct. TOE is iron clad in artful premises, syllogisms, reasonings and conclusions that are a thorough attempt of one man to rationalise his way through what had become his Reality of living. But the perfect knowledge was not obtained by way of reasoning. First, one researches answers to the questions that trouble them the most. His was “Truth exists”. The Mind burns, is set on fire, wants to know, looks for information. Then, the Mind drops in the assault of The Insight. Then, after the recovery the Mind attempts to explain what took place. Then, the Mind says “I see. OK. No worries.”

The books are the explanation and in no way a teaching.

I haven’t read “Jed’s Talks” and so cannot comment on it. His book “Dreamscape: The Conspiracy Theory” is the work of a more mature individual, more in touch with the reality of this world, more connected and less confused. It shows a definite inner progress, that famous ‘further’. Jed resides firmly in the acceptance of the world as is, where fairy tales and imaginings are left to those still on the path to Clarity.

Good on you, Jed, and you shouldn’t have written the books. One man’s mature mind cannot make another mind just as mature. Life will take care of that eventually, so what is the point of dragging anyone out of slumber when they do not have enough life experience, never asked any meaningful questions, do not know how to ask and are emotionally immature to even venture into the world of the honest enquiry? Some correspondents are in their twenties, hardly lived, yet got hit on the head by ‘spiritual’ books, bitten by the bug and are walking around in circles, because their minds are NOT READY.

It is the same as suggesting that it is possible for a six months old baby to walk… then write a book about it. Then, given the human propensity to be fascinated by improbable scenarios, people might just attempt to make those babies walk? Perhaps, not. Everyone is aware that the muscles, coordination, bones density need to strengthen before a baby can walk, and it will happen naturally. Why the hell does everyone ignore the fact that the same applies to the human mind? A disaster all around and a cruelty to animals.

The human babies need to live first, gain some foothold on Reality and then ask some questions of themselves. Not because they have read a book about ‘it’ and got hooked on the promise. When they are naturally ready – they will start walking.

The books are brilliant, but useful only to a handful of humans who had already done most of the ground work themselves. Why? Because they relied on themselves to find the answers. Until one begins to trust in the power of own enquiry – most will remain in the fog and will keep searching for own clear Mind until Death claims them.

Ironic, isn’t it? Self.


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37 thoughts on “Jed McKenna Evolution

    1. Hi Joe,

      Yep.
      The human mind does not gain the capacity to think rationally until the age of 30 or thereabouts. It is no coincidence that Jed got his breakthrough at exactly 30. Any insights prior to that seem to be pretty much lost on the mind.

      Jesus peaked at around 33, Muhammad at around 40. Gautama (the Buddha) got his itchy feet at around 30 too. All proceeded to live according to the personal Blueprint, aka DNA, and the contemporary cultural surroundings.

      Try to teach ‘spirituality’ to a ten or even to a fifteen year old. They will get the rituals, even the concepts for some brighter ones, but no clarity.

  1. You say those books are useful to some humans. I say those books are TOTALLY useless.

    There are absolutely no books, no words in the world that can help anybody to think by himself.

    ALL the words, ALL the “teachers/speakers/writers” must be brushed aside if one wants to know the truth, to be the truth. You can’t trust the words of anybody, you have to find out what’s true and what’s not ALONE. Period.

    If there is even only one word or one sentence in you that comes from outside, from somebody else and you believe it without looking by yourself if it’s true or not, then you are not free, you’re just a parrot, a puppet.

    Those books have only one purpose : make M.O.N.E.Y. (one look at the wisefool press site is enough to understand : all those pricetags ahah…)

    If that “Jed Mckenna” really wanted to help (but like i said it’s impossible to help anybody) then all of those words would be F.R.E.E. , all the PDF’s at least would be free. He just wants to make money. I don’t say it’s a bad thing, but that’s it.

    Nobody can help someone else concerning “the truth”, you have to be ALONE (and reading someone else’s book or thoughts is NOT being alone…), you have to look at your own thoughts, your own words, and nobody can do that for you…

    So, those “Jed Mckenna” books = bullshit. 🙂

    1. I am radicalised only to the extent when anything conveyed by another mind does not correspond to Reality. From that perspective (try to hold many perspectives simultaneously) not everything you say – corresponds to Reality.

      The first fifty pages of the first book hit the nail on the coffin for me. Therefore, I cannot state the books are completely useless. That would be simply untrue.

      But you are correct in that no one can teach anyone to think for themselves.

      You are also correct in that the books are now written to provide a living. Nowhere did the author ever state that he wanted to ‘help’ anyone. Jed has figured out a way of making a living without inconveniencing himself by the hordes of admirers.

      I have to give credit where credit is due: as far as I am aware he does not teach any bullshit workshops, satsangs, retreats and the rest of the usual spiritual business repertoire. If I discover that Jed McKenna partakes in the role of a paid ‘spiritual teacher’ in the real world – I will let you know.

      This was my point of contention when I first came across Kenneth McMordie’s forums in the belief that he was the author.

        1. Oups, I sent my comment too early.

          So I was saying : Jed’s words had absolutely no impact on you Tano, that’s what I think and I know it’s true.

          I already told you that I read the first half of the first book, and something didn’t feel right, something sounded false, I try to know a bit more about that “jed”, and I came across your blog, and what I read here made sense.

          Since the first book, it’s all marketing. The first book was designed to make money, nothing else. It’s clear. Of course there are some truths in what I read in the first book, that’s why I continued till the half of it. But all those quotations, all that fiction about a ‘ashram’ in Iowa, all the characters, that’s all bullshit.

          All marketing, all “how can I sell the maximum books possible?”, a little bit of this, a little bit of that, and that “wisefool press site” all marketing. And I’m sure the author is very very close to that site, maybe he runs it himself.

          In a nutshell : those books are bullshit, made to make money. And totally useless, even for you Tano. They didn’t learn you anything you didn’t already know. 😉

          1. I find it amusing to defend Jed McKenna books in view of all that has been conveyed on this website.

            You tend to have one single perspective – that of negation, and of mixing different contexts in one passage. This is not how my mind works. I consider all sides. So..

            Are the books bullshit? Yes, because writing about ‘enlightenment’ as something to aspire to is misleading.

            Are the books useless? For the vast majority yes, because they will not be EXPLICITLY understood by most.

            Are the books dangerous? For some unstable individual minds – yes. They do lead some people to irreversible breakdowns with no recovery options. These are the immature adult children who suffer the most as a result.

            Do the books relay information true to factual physical reality? Yes, in some parts, as far as places and locations go.

            Is ALL the information in the books true to factual physical reality? No for the most part, as the story is a composite account of a few individuals.

            Do the books convey the ideas and understandings true to what is? Yes, for the most part it is a clear account of what Reality represents.

            Do the books convey the ideas and understandings untrue to what is? Yes, there are distortions as a reflection of Jed’s personal history and his cultural background.

            Were the books written to make money? Business considerations were a major part of it, yes.

            Were the books written ONLY to make money? No, they were not. Jed is human just like everyone else, and needs to get things out, just like we are doing here.

            Regarding what the books taught or not taught me personally… I repeat – let ME be the judge of that.

          2. Of course Tano, you think what you think, and my intention here is not to transform what you think about Jed’s books or what you think Jed’s books gave you or any of your thoughts in general. My intention here is to express clearly what I think.

            I have a question for you (let’s say at least one) :

            What have you learned in the books that you didn’t already know was true ? What precisely ? What sentence in which chapter ? I’m really curious to know. Which idea ? Which truth ?

            There’s nothing that could have come outside of you to learn you something about Reality, not one word.

            And Truth doesn’t need confirmation. Nobody needs to read in some book what he already knows. If someone needs confirmation, then he’s not sure, and in fact, he doesn’t know.

            Truth will never come from a book.

            I have another question : You say that Kenneth has no link with the books, that you have no proof there is a link between him and the books, but have you a proof that there is not link, that he was never involved in the making of the books ?

          3. Cedric, umm… sigh, beer four and now I’m being an asshole by replying to sort of save EM from rising to the bait…
            Give it a rest mate. You’re baiting her. Cheers, let me buy you a beer (send me the bill, and I’ll pay with paypal).

            OK, maybe I should finish reading your comment, mmm… you said,

            “Cédric says:
            April 17, 2018 at 20:46
            Of course Tano, you think what you think, and my intention here is not to transform what you think about Jed’s books or what you think Jed’s books gave you or any of your thoughts in general. My intention here is to express clearly what I think.

            I have a question for you (let’s say at least one) :

            What have you learned in the books that you didn’t already know was true ? What precisely ? What sentence in which chapter ? I’m really curious to know. Which idea ? Which truth ?

            There’s nothing that could have come outside of you to learn you something about Reality, not one word.

            And Truth doesn’t need confirmation. Nobody needs to read in some book what he already knows. If someone needs confirmation, then he’s not sure, and in fact, he doesn’t know.

            Truth will never come from a book.

            I have another question : You say that Kenneth has no link with the books, that you have no proof there is a link between him and the books, but have you a proof that there is not link, that he was never involved in the making of the books ?”

            OK, I read it all. He’s being mmm…. unreasonable EM. My suggestion is to ignore him or brush him off without insult. Ha, ok, maybe I’m insulting him for you so you don’t have to.

            Nuf said, Cedric? BTW, who are you? What’s your real name?

            I am, respectfully yours,
            Brian Joseph Kotrich, aka B Joseph Kotrich

          4. I described what exactly took place – in The Story here on the website. It was not a specific idea or a passage or a sentence. It had nothing to do with confirmation from anyone. The Mind opened up.

            Sometimes the house burns from the internal electrical fault, and sometimes it burns because someone put a match to it. In my case it was a combination of both: the internal burn and the match of the first book. All that I dropped and acquired before or after the mind opening – was my own, of course.

            A swift movement of lighting the match. It took all of a few seconds. The catalyst. Do you know what the word ‘catalyst’ means?

            You seem to be taken by the idea of ‘Think for yourself’, which is positive. However, I do not see you applying it in any constructive manner to further your own understanding.

            Regarding Kenneth…. yes, I have.

          5. Hey Cedric! How you doing? What’s your story man? Who are you? Is Cedric your real name? It’s not an American name, yet your English is quite good. I suppose you have a history here, on this page, as I do. I got to play a role in this drama last year in Sihanoukville, and on the various internet places this story played on. SO… What’s your interest in all this? Are you some guy who read the “Jed” books or, is there something more? I’m thinking it’s become quite important to you. So, why? What’s your interest in all this drama?

            Peace and good,
            Joe
            aka B Joseph Kotrich
            aka Brian Joseph Kotrich
            Koh Kong, Cambodia at this time.

          6. Hi Brian,

            We exchanged some emails last year (oct 2017 I just checked 😉 ). I replied back then to some of the questions you ask again today. (Yes, Cédric is my real name, etc.)

            I like truth. That’s it. Nothing more, nothing less. And for me truth is everything.

            I don’t drink alcohol, but one beer, why not, if it’s cold (quite hot today here in the South of France). 😉

            Cheers.

          7. Dear Mr. “Cedric”;

            Ah, thank you, “Cedric”, for reminding me we did this dance back last October. I went an reviewed our prior emails. You only identified yourself as a male in the South of France. Then as now, you hide behind anonymity. I have no patience for it now. I had enough of it on Reddit, where I expressed the same disdain. I would have the same disdain for “EM” here on this page, had I not met her personally and spent three hours dialoguing with her at a coffee shop in Sihanoukville, even though I still don’t know HER real name. You, sir, ask many questions of others and ignore those asked of you. I will attempt to ignore you from now on, note the word “attempt”. I have little to no patience to continue being compassionate and responsive in a supportive manner to fake people. You, sir, are to me but another faker another pretender, a ghost, an anonymous thing no longer worthy of a respectful response. If you should care to come out from behind where you are hiding, I may be inclined to change my opinion of you.

            Yours Truly,
            Brian Joseph Kotrich, aka “Joe”, aka “B Joseph Kotrich” on Facebook.
            68 years old, an American citizen, retired public school teacher, retired Zen Buddhist Dharma Teacher, married to my 2nd wife, living at the moment in Koh Kong, Cambodia, etc., etc…

          8. Tano, I just read your story again. (Had already read it twice before some months ago).

            That story is not important, for me, but even for you, it’s not important for you. If you write it today, it would be a different story, different words, memory is playing with us, we are not what we think we were, we are not thoughts, we are not what’s going on in our brains.

            You say Jed’s first book was the “catalyst”, yes maybe, but I say : It could have been an infinite number of other things, for instance : Looking at your hand, looking at a landscape, watching tv, reading the newspaper, brushing your teeth, etc. “Jed’s first book” has nothing special in it. For you, for your story it’s something special, but that’s nothing, “Truth” doesn’t care about “your story”, don’t you agree ?

            I don’t care at all about “my story”, or what will happen to “me”. And maybe that’s the difference between us. Do you care about what happened to you and what will happen to you in the future, Tano ?

          9. @Cedric
            It could have been any of the things you mention. But it wasn’t any of those things.

            In answer to your question whether I care what happens to me – yes. If I don’t care – who else will?

            I see where you are, finally. Thanks for the interaction.

    2. I disagree. There is nothing wrong with trying to make some money. A doctor WANTS to help people, but he also wants to make money. But not – as you write -, “just” wants to make money. The first book was recommended to me by someone who is on another level than I am. I felt it was useful to me at the time. And the price tag: it is cheap. the three books on kindle, I don’t remember the price, was ridiculous. Just got the new book by murakami, 25 euro.. And that was just entertainment. the books can be totally useless, I agree. but that is not the fault of the books. It depends on what you make of it. I am at a beautiful place right now, but I do not feel like I should, haha. Is that the fault of prachuap? I don’t think so. best regards kris

      1. Hi Kris,

        When it comes to teaching, there is nothing wrong with making money if one teaches a useful skill. The hypnosis of reaching ‘enlightenment’ is not a skill.

        It is cheap – on Kindle, correct. $7.99. Wisefool Press claims to have sold over a million. Their overheads are low. Do the maths.

        Your point is besides the point. The point is – you will not learn from books. You personally have not learnt from reading Jed’s books. Classifying them as ‘useful’ is a good indicator that you got very little out of them.

        It is not the fault of the books, correct again. It is the fault of the human minds that read the books. But don’t you think that a man as intelligent as our Jed – does not know this simple truth?

        Yet… he writes. Jed does not want to ‘just’ make money, I didn’t say that. He wants to express himself and make money.

        1. hi, I replied to cedrik, not to you. I didn’t make that clear enough, obviously . I think he is wrong not just what he is writing about but also how he writes it. there was another guy who had a lot of aggression /energy inside him, who I think has disappeared. I wrote to you about him. I see similarities concerning character and intention.

          1. Kris, Cedric is a bit stuck in one perspective and could do with applying ‘think for yourself’ motto to explore other angles.

            I am used to combative people as you may know, but there is no malice there.

            My points still stand. Jed’s enterprise is not a charitable cause, his books could be a catalyst to very few, but after all the tail chasing one ends up exactly where they started: back to Reality, albeit with a clear head.

      2. Hi Kris,

        I wrote : “He just wants to make money. I don’t say it’s a bad thing, but that’s it.”

        And I repeat, I don’t say it’s a bad thing to write a book to make money.

        He would have put “NOVEL” on the cover, I would not even bother mentioning thoses “Jed McKenna” books. But they are made like they are something important, that they are a big deal, like “the search is over”, and that’s all bullshit…

        Marketing and bullshit.

        “The first book was recommended to me by someone who is on another level than I am.”

        That’s also bullshit, Kris, nobody is on “another level than you are”. 😉

        Cheers.

  2. In this life, such as it is, I find truth in the Buddhist “Anatta” or no-self. No separate me. “In here”, in my head – my experiencing of my separate incarnation as “Joe” is the primary fiction or belief. There is no “me” other than this impermanent (“Anicca”) thing I call “me”, or this “I AM”. Right now this “I AM”, this fictional, impermanent imaginary self is….

    I’m having a cup of brewed coffee from beans I just ground, sitting in front of my computer monitor, reading email and other entertainment that pops up…..

    OK, back to my point, the one I haven’t made here yet. All above writers appear to me, to be unaware of this truth – i.e. the truth of anatta/no self. AND, its corollary that – if there is no separate self in here, THEN there are NO OTHER SEPARATE SELVES “out there”. i.e. it’s ultimately all your own creation, you’re it. I’m not going to try to explain how it all works, because I’m as puzzled and amused as can be about how it all can be. The Hindu, Tat Tvam Asi, comes to mind as a way to end my comment. Cheers! 🙂

    My coffee is now cold.

    1. Joe, you have been at it (buddhism) for decades, especially that Americanised verson of it that I had mentioned.. It has calcified in your mind. It is highly unlikely you will ever open to the possibility that what you wrote – is simply not true. What you wrote is the production of your mind. Not real.

      As long as it keeps you happy. I am not sure that it does.

      1. Joe, you have been at it (buddhism) for decades,
        Yes, I have.

        especially that Americanised verson of it that I had mentioned..
        I don’t remember what you mentioned.

        It has calcified in your mind.
        Yes, I’m also thinking that’s true for all of us, that our “individual minds” are a calcification of… whatever this is.

        It is highly unlikely you will ever open to the possibility that what you wrote – is simply not true.
        Of course it’s not “true”. What is “true” is another conversation we are not likely to have.

        What you wrote is the production of your mind. Not real.
        Yes, completely. Haha, that’s a truth we do agree on. AND, a double edged one.

        As long as it keeps you happy. I am not sure that it does.
        It keeps me happy sometimes, then sometimes it doesn’t. It changes, “anicca”, everything is impermanent here where I am. How about you?

  3. Joe, you have been at it (buddhism) for decades,
    -Yes, I have.
    especially that Americanised verson of it that I had mentioned..
    -I don’t remember what you mentioned.
    It has calcified in your mind.
    -Yes, I’m also thinking that’s true for all of us, that our “individual minds” are a calcification of… whatever this is.
    It is highly unlikely you will ever open to the possibility that what you wrote – is simply not true.
    -Of course it’s not “true”. What is “true” is another conversation we are not likely to have.
    What you wrote is the production of your mind. Not real.
    -Yes, completely. Haha, that’s a truth we do agree on. AND, a double-edged one.
    As long as it keeps you happy. I am not sure that it does.
    -It keeps me happy sometimes, then sometimes it doesn’t. It changes, “anicca”, everything is impermanent here where I am. How about you?

    ———————————————————————————————-
    On another matter: how did your bike trip for a month go? My wife rode pillion on a 1,500 km trip we did on my Honda Phantom. We rode to Kampot, took the train to Phnom Penh, then rode up to Siem Reap, around to Battembang, and finally back to Koh Kong. It was an 18 day trip.

    1. I went through the Eastern provinces: Mondulkiri, Ratanakiri, Stung Treng, Preah Vihear, finished at Siem Reap.

      Sen Monorom is a shithole, but the nature is spectacular. Feels like somewhere in Tibet, was very cold.

      Banlung is nice, Yeak Laom crater lake and the waterfalls swimming.

      I loved Preah Vihear, the woods and the mountain temple on the Thai border. Not many people make it that far.

      The bike went like a tank, never broke down unlike my friends’ FTRs.

      1. A very good trip then. I haven’t been in the Eastern provinces, and don’t know if I ever will. My bike also worked well, until I took a friend’s advice and had another, supposedly better new Carb put on in Siem Reap. I had to have it removed later, in Battembang, and the original carb put back on.

  4. I agree with Enlightenment Myth aka Tano, in what she replied to Cedric. My comment on her comment to his comment, is: I agree generally with what EM/Tano said in this reply that I’ve reposted here. Good, balanced level-headed reply EM.

    I’ll repost which comment I’m agreeing with below here.
    Enlightenment Myth wrote:

    “April 17, 2018 at 16:49
    I find it amusing to defend Jed McKenna books in view of all that has been conveyed on this website.

    You tend to have one single perspective – that of negation, and of mixing different contexts in one passage. This is not how my mind works. I consider all sides. So..

    Are the books bullshit? Yes, because writing about ‘enlightenment’ as something to aspire to is misleading.

    Are the books useless? For the vast majority yes, because they will not be EXPLICITLY understood by most.

    Are the books dangerous? For some unstable individual minds – yes. They do lead some people to irreversible breakdowns with no recovery options. These are the immature adult children who suffer the most as a result.

    Do the books relay information true to factual physical reality? Yes, in some parts, as far as places and locations go.

    Is ALL the information in the books true to factual physical reality? No for the most part, as the story is a composite account of a few individuals.

    Do the books convey the ideas and understandings true to what is? Yes, for the most part it is a clear account of what Reality represents.

    Do the books convey the ideas and understandings untrue to what is? Yes, there are distortions as a reflection of Jed’s personal history and his cultural background.

    Were the books written to make money? Business considerations were a major part of it, yes.

    Were the books written ONLY to make money? No, they were not. Jed is human just like everyone else, and needs to get things out, just like we are doing here.

    Regarding what the books taught or not taught me personally… I repeat – let ME be the judge of that.”

      1. Yup. I love the monsoons. I like to stay at home most of the time anyway. About the “head” lost and then found – it comes and goes, and your comment reminded me of this (a google search to find again the stuff on having no head, so I can share it here: https://www.google.com.kh/search?ei=183VWu_tEoKt8QWe9qeABQ&q=on+having+no+head&oq=on+having+no+head&gs_l=psy-ab.12..35i39k1j0l7.39164.40123.0.43764.4.4.0.0.0.0.141.460.1j3.4.0….0…1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.4.459…0i67k1j0i22i30k1.0.wEJ4CBkPmuw

          1. Correct, it’s abiding, cannot be lost. But that’s not what I meant. I don’t spend all my time, someday’s none of it, keeping my awareness aware of it. I like to forget it and enjoy a good fiction book, or binge watch a TV show and movies. I’m born, incarnated here to be IN THE DREAM. Being awake is often a pain in the ass for me. It’s sometimes annoying and … I won’t go on other than to add something also Buddhist, in addition to …. no… this is your page, so I’ll bite my tongue. I will add that when I drink some beers, after about the fourth beer I lose track of “it”, so it’s temporarily gone, sort of, not completely but enough to ignore it. Sometimes, if I drink enough I can ignore it, tune it out until my hangover is gone, then “it’s back – never lost, I just want to forget about it at times. But that’s just me, my way of explaining it.

        1. Well, if you want to obscure your mind on occasions (which is what your drinking does in real terms).. who am I to say otherwise.

          Reality is not all roses. Those who can see clearly – do not walk around with a permanent silly grin on their face, and most carry some sadness that you experience.

          The real Jed McKenna, for instance, found it ‘a little depressing’ (his real words) to hear about Kenneth and the scamming that’s taking place. I don’t blame him.

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